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. and if you remember going back to jackson hull, the talk this august on expectations of the market when it comes to fed policy. the concept that if you anchor in today what will move policy tomorrow and remember what the fed did in september. they said we're going to move when there's substantial improvement in the labor market. and now the discussion, bill, and this is what's profound about the discussion. it has nothing to do with economic variables. it has to do with political variables, balance sheet variables. it's no longer about the variable that we thought we understood which was the labor market. >> john, if i could go back to your comments about main street versus wall street. in today's world it seems are very much linked. mainstream will look at the news. of course they've all watched "closing bell." they'll look at the news and see the 200 point selloff in the dow industrial average and wonder what's going wrong in the economy. i don't know you can separate the two as much as you used to be able to. and specifically as it pertains to fed monetary policy. >> every policy cre
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